1. FV affirms “that God formally unites a person to Christ
and to His covenant people through baptism into the triune Name” and that
“Baptism formally engrafts a person into the Church”
2. FV affirms “ that through our union with Him we partake
of the benefits of His death, burial, resurrection, ascension, and enthronement
at the right hand of God the Father.”
From 1 and 2 we can discern that Baptism automatically
yields in at least a “formal” sense all the benefits of Christ’s work through a
union that automatically is transmitted through the washing of water.
3. Yet FV also denies “that baptism automatically guarantees
that the baptized will share in the eschatological Church.”
Those statements might seem to imply that existential union
occurs at baptism (by the working of the works) yet that existential union can
be lost since baptism does not guarantee a place in the “eschatological
Church”.
4.However, FV also denies “the common misunderstanding of
baptismal regeneration—i.e. that an “effectual call” or rebirth is
automatically wrought in the one baptized.”
Accordingly, for me to make sense of all of this (1, 2, 3
and 4), I might be inclined to think that what FV means by 1 and 2 is that
through water baptism one is united to the visible Church (this being the
“formal” union and engrafting to which they speak), but because baptism does
not automatically bring forth the new birth (4), there can be those who only
share in the outward administration of the covenant as portrayed in 1 and 2,
and consequently not end up saved in this life (4) and the life after (3). [Those sentiments are what Peter Leithart basically affirmed on the stand.] If
that is all the FV means, then why not say, as the WLC Q&A 31 teaches, that
the CoG was made only with Christ as the second Adam and with all the elect who
would be united to him in the new birth? In other words, why not conceive the
promise of the covenant of grace as pertaining ONLY to the elect, although
administered to the entire visible church? If that is what FV means, then what
have they brought to the Reformed church other than confusion (at best)? If
that is not what they mean, then what are they trying to say? [The prosecution indicated a sense of this when WCF expert Robert Letham was on the stand. Yet the prosecution never pursued the matter with Leithart, the man on trial.]
I think they mean more because (a) Federal Visionists
believe they have more to offer the church beyond the confessions, and (b) they
make much to do about the identical union that all have through baptism. One
prominent Federal Visionist says that the “same sap” runs through all the
branches of the Vine, whether elected unto final salvation or not.
[A key point that remained absent from the prosecution's questioning is that Peter Leithart along with Federal Vision thought they had new insights. After all, Reformed is not enough. Accordingly, if nothing in Leithart's testimony was new to Reformed thought, then either he was not being truthful or he did not understand basic Reformation, confessional-theology in the first place. Either way he his credentials would be suspect. Furthermore, the prosecution applied statements of Leithart's to the invisible church when Leithart claimed they applied to how we are to regard members of the visible church. (Such was even done as late as yesterday on Greenbaggins by the prosecutor in the case.) Yet the incongruity of the plain meaning of words was not pressed to the point of two possible conclusions, perjury or unclear communication, again both unbecoming of officers in the church.
Yet the real point of contention in the case was the quality of "faith" the reprobate can have even though its "duration" was admittedly not unto glory. Leithart drew a proper distinction, teased out by a lawyer on his side of the case, but the workings of that theology and how it relates to other points of theology was left uncovered by the prosecution. The "common operations of the Spirit," the real crux of the matter, was not thoroughly dealt with. It wasn't even superficially dealth with, which I found odd given that the case boiled down to the manner or degree in which the unbeliever can be united to Christ and participate in kingdom life.]
Case in point – a pastor now associated with Confederation of Reformed Evangelical Churches candidated at my church prior to our considering and calling our existing pastor. While enjoying a cigar with this man on my porch on the Lord’s Day he preached to our congregation, I challenged him on some of his FV leanings. His position at that time was that there are those who are engrafted into Christ that share in the same operations of the Spirit as the elect. I challenged this man, asking him to elaborate on the elect’s assurance (even infallible assurance) of salvation given his view that some with the same measure of the Spirit can and will fall away from Christ. In other words, if those with the witness of the Spirit can fall away, then how can assurance of final salvation be obtained in this life? His response was concise and without ambiguity. Without pause he said that he took exception to the Confession’s chapter on assurance of grace and salvation. Although we finished the cigar and went back to evening service, I was confident at that very moment that this man would not receive the call. When I emailed the pastor to tell him my verdict and what my recommendation to the search committee and session would be, he responded by saying that he misspoke, went back and re-read the Confession and actually can affirm that men can be assured of their salvation. I was thrilled to hear that he came around on the matter but disheartened that he had such a fragile handle on the matter. That is just ONE reason why I don’t find most Federal Visionsists heretical but rather simply muddled. That man, BTW, was ordained in the OPC and actually at one time had pastored a church in the denomination.
[A key point that remained absent from the prosecution's questioning is that Peter Leithart along with Federal Vision thought they had new insights. After all, Reformed is not enough. Accordingly, if nothing in Leithart's testimony was new to Reformed thought, then either he was not being truthful or he did not understand basic Reformation, confessional-theology in the first place. Either way he his credentials would be suspect. Furthermore, the prosecution applied statements of Leithart's to the invisible church when Leithart claimed they applied to how we are to regard members of the visible church. (Such was even done as late as yesterday on Greenbaggins by the prosecutor in the case.) Yet the incongruity of the plain meaning of words was not pressed to the point of two possible conclusions, perjury or unclear communication, again both unbecoming of officers in the church.
Yet the real point of contention in the case was the quality of "faith" the reprobate can have even though its "duration" was admittedly not unto glory. Leithart drew a proper distinction, teased out by a lawyer on his side of the case, but the workings of that theology and how it relates to other points of theology was left uncovered by the prosecution. The "common operations of the Spirit," the real crux of the matter, was not thoroughly dealt with. It wasn't even superficially dealth with, which I found odd given that the case boiled down to the manner or degree in which the unbeliever can be united to Christ and participate in kingdom life.]
Case in point – a pastor now associated with Confederation of Reformed Evangelical Churches candidated at my church prior to our considering and calling our existing pastor. While enjoying a cigar with this man on my porch on the Lord’s Day he preached to our congregation, I challenged him on some of his FV leanings. His position at that time was that there are those who are engrafted into Christ that share in the same operations of the Spirit as the elect. I challenged this man, asking him to elaborate on the elect’s assurance (even infallible assurance) of salvation given his view that some with the same measure of the Spirit can and will fall away from Christ. In other words, if those with the witness of the Spirit can fall away, then how can assurance of final salvation be obtained in this life? His response was concise and without ambiguity. Without pause he said that he took exception to the Confession’s chapter on assurance of grace and salvation. Although we finished the cigar and went back to evening service, I was confident at that very moment that this man would not receive the call. When I emailed the pastor to tell him my verdict and what my recommendation to the search committee and session would be, he responded by saying that he misspoke, went back and re-read the Confession and actually can affirm that men can be assured of their salvation. I was thrilled to hear that he came around on the matter but disheartened that he had such a fragile handle on the matter. That is just ONE reason why I don’t find most Federal Visionsists heretical but rather simply muddled. That man, BTW, was ordained in the OPC and actually at one time had pastored a church in the denomination.
“We affirm that there is only one true Church, and that this Church can legitimately be considered under various descriptions, including the aspects of visible and invisible."
This is one of the most troubling statements of the FV. [Though even that has been met with disagreement of late at Greenbaggins by two non-FV people citing Berkhof and Hodge. See recent post of mind of days ago, which addresses the matter.] The statement communicates that there is only one church, which can be described in terms of its being visible and invisible. The implication of such a construct is that the invisible church and the visible church are the same church. From that false premise comes much confusion and outright error. To make the point more clearly, consider the following modification of the statement: We affirm that there is only one true God, and that this God can legitimately be considered under various descriptions, including the aspects of transcendence and immanence. The modified statement, which uses the same construct of the FV statement, clearly communicates that the one transcendent God is the same God as the immanent God. That is true. Transcendence and immanence are simply two aspects of the one God. Is the FV statement true in this way? Is the visible church the same church as invisible church? The FV statement clearly implies that they are one and the same; for it states that there is “only one true Church” that can be described in various ways, like visible and invisible. How can they claim such a theology and also claim to be Reformed?
In contrast to FV theology, now consider Reformed theology:
“The catholic or universal Church, which is invisible, consists of the whole
number of the elect, that have been, are, or shall be gathered into one, under
Christ the Head thereof; and is the spouse, the body, the fullness of Him that
fills all in all…The visible Church, which is also catholic or universal under
the Gospel (not confined to one nation, as before under the law), consists of
all those throughout the world that profess the true religion; and of their
children: and is the kingdom of the Lord Jesus Christ, the house and family of
God, out of which there is no ordinary possibility of salvation.”
Note the difference. Within Reformed theology the invisible
and visible churches are not the same church. The invisible church consists of
the elect who will all possess Christ, whereas the visible church consists of
those who profess Christ. On that basis alone, the FV may not be considered
“Reformed” in any sense of the word.
It is not a matter of whether
these men are muddled or ravenous wolves; their doctrines are at best confusing
and at worst damnable. I also agree with Lane ["Greenbaggins"] when he intimated that this
matter would not beep nearly as much on the reformed radar screen if the
proponents of FV confined themselves to one locale, say the CREC. In the end, I
do believe the fire has been well contained and that the ones who remain within
the confines of the PCA are on a very short leash, under close watch and at
best smoldering. They have been given a fair hearing in many quarters and
consistently have been found wanting. For that we can all be grateful. June, 2010
Great post on FV, I'm still trying to wrap my brain around what they are actually saying. Love the blog, can't wait to check out more of it!
ReplyDeleteI put up a comment over at Greenbaggins, in the hopes of dousing some of the embers that have been smoldering. I hope it doesn't bring the flames upon me! All of the blame tossing has been very disheartening, all the more since there seems to be no apparent effort on some of those who are casting blame to examine the possibility of their own guilt or error.
ReplyDeleteWith regard to #2, if I understand FV correctly, the "benefits" obtained by union with Christ do not include justification in any real sense, so that allows them to play with semantics regarding "baptismal regeneration". Thoughts?
ReplyDeleteHow can one be united to the benefits of the cross as delineated above and not be justified?
ReplyDeleteExactly. Their answer would be that the justification that you speak of is the "Old Perspective on Paul". They would say that the correct view of justification is that Gentiles are "justified" as being in the church by way of their faith, thus not having to become Jews. They don't believe in a distinct "visible" church, so they will only be "justified" in terms of being redeemed if they stay in God's Covenant (presumably using their own virtue.)
ReplyDeleteAt least that's how I understand it, though there are various differences among adherents. In any case, FV and NPP represent another gospel.